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Friday, April 27, 2012

OH MEIN GOTT !!! Papa Ratzinger Calls Upon U.S. Catholic Church to "lead the way" in Revival of the Worldwide Catholic Church !!!

The U.S. and Vatican flags wave before the U.S. Capitol Building

THE CATHOLIC KNIGHT:  In a stunning announcement on Monday, His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI (via the apostolic nuncio to the United States Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano) has just laid the heaviest burden in 2,000 years on the shoulders of Catholic Americans.  Realizing that Christianity in Europe is beyond recovery, the Holy Father has called upon the U.S. Catholic Church to "lead the way" in revival of the whole Catholic world....

(CNS) -- Pope Benedict XVI wants the Catholic Church in America to be in the forefront of reviving Catholicism worldwide, the apostolic nuncio to the United States said in Columbus.
"The Church in the United States should lead the entire Church in the world" in a revitalization effort, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano said. "This is a great task, but you have the determination and the grace to do it. This I know is the vision of the Holy Father regarding the Church in the United States."
The archbishop was speaking to an audience of seminarians and benefactors of the Pontifical College Josephinum at its annual rector's dinner April 23. He called on the American Church to go beyond its mission of evangelizing the United States and "to be missionaries not only to the Third World, but especially to the countries of Europe.
"Christianity (in Europe) in some way has lost its strength and needs an example," he said, noting "very positive signs of growth" in vocations to the priesthood and the religious life in the United States.

Archbishop Vigano said he especially wanted to direct his message to young people, particularly those studying for the priesthood at the Josephinum.

The institution has experienced substantial growth in recent years and currently has an enrollment of more than 180 men, its highest in 25 years. They represent 29 dioceses from all over the United States, including six that sent seminarians to the institution for the first time this year, and their ethnic and cultural backgrounds echo the diversity of the American Church as a whole...

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Considering the magnitude of the loss in the worldwide Catholic Church ever since the Second Vatican Council, the prospect of this burden being laid at the feet of Catholics Americans is staggering. Yet, the Holy Father has called upon us to rise to the occasion. What can we do but respond in the affirmative?  The Holy Father has called upon us.  Holy Mother Church needs us.  It's time to clean our own house, and in this, we may rise to the occasion.  The recent rise in U.S. vocations is a direct response to traditional renewal in liturgy and orthodoxy within the U.S. Catholic Church.  Liberal seminaries continue to flounder, while traditional seminaries are busting at the seems with new vocations.  It is clear what the path forward is.
Please pass this message on to every Catholic you know.

43 comments:

Ruskin said...

This is both amazing and frightful. Amazing in that we, Americans, an originally Protestant nation are entrusted to carry the flag of Catholicism, to reawaken Europe to God and the faith. But also frightful for we must now answer such an enormous call of which the eternal lives of millions present and future lay in the balance. It is time for us to awaken, grab our crosses, and march for God, as we are the sole remaining Western nation capable of such a task.

Paul said...

Wow, you gotta like this one although, personally, i don't feel worthy of the compliment! There must be something the Pope sees in how our country's catholics have not completely buckled to secularism and, incredibly, our vocations are back on the rise. Maybe it is our revolutionary spirit against corrupt government that has brought this about.
I'm going to begin to pray more. In our diocese vocations are on the rise but we still rely on vocations from other countries to help. It is a wonder to me that a place like Nigeria, that has more vocations than they can handle, has not been called on in the way the US has.
I'm sure the Pope's information on the state of the world is better than mine so I'll do my best to answer the call by first and foremost trying to improve my spiritual life8

Anonymous said...

Sir Knight, a few thoughts on this: 1) it must be apparent to HH that the faith in Europe is virtually dead (or soon will be), judging by statistics and observable facts in France, Italy, Germany, the UK, etc. 2) the faith among US catholics doesnt appear that much better, except among youngish traditionalists, led by zealous priests and a few good bishops. But I am not nearly as hopeful that dumbed down US catholics (given the pitiful state of catechesis) are up to the task. 3) It was my impression that the church held out greater hopes for leadership to emerge from Africa and Asia, where conversions and voucations ARE occuring at a rising rate. I think a slight uptick in american vocations should not be interpreted as the beginni8ng of "leadership" on the part of american catholics. As I understand it, seminary enrollment in my scandal-ridden archdiocese is dropping through the floor, along with other former bastions of catholicity such as NY and Boston. How do you build catholicism by closing schools and "consolidating" parishes? Pete Frey

Aquinas said...

A recent video from Michael Voris addressed this same issue. According to a priest he confided in, we are to take up the flag of Our Mother and the Archangel Michael as well as take the devotion to Mary put together by Louis De Montfort.

Anonymous said...

Sir Knight,

God help us; with the cancer of liberalism all but having destroyed the US Church (not to mention the Australian church for that matter) will this not just incourage groups such as the neocats, magisterium of nuns and other perversions to orthodox Catholic Christianity to see this as the green light they've been baying for? God help us!

Blessings,

Sarah,
Australia.

Alan Aversa said...

Whoa… How isn't this full-fledged Americanism, á la Pope Leo XIII's Testem Benevolentiæ to Baltimore Archbishop Gibbons?

Oremus pro pontifice nostro Benedicto.

The Catholic Knight said...

Alan, it is not Americanism for two reasons.

First, the pope is NOT saying that America itself is called to lead the revival of worldwide Catholicism. He is saying the Catholic Church IN America is called to lead. That's a big difference. America is a country. The Catholic Church IN America is an ecclesiastical body. The pope is not calling the country. The pope is calling a particular ecclesiastical body of the worldwide Catholic Church to lead the others into revival. In fact, the pope says nothing about the country at all. For all we know, the Catholic Church IN America may soon have to lead the rest of the flock while she herself is under persecution by the U.S. federal government, and many state governments too. In fact, I dread to say it, but I tend to think this is EXACTLY how things will soon go.

Second, Americanism is defined as the heresy of total spiritual individualism. It's based on the idea that Christianity is about a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ," and that's it. There is no room for a visible authoritative Church to govern the body of believers. Instead, the Catholic Church is just relegated to one of the many bodies of Christian "denominations." Americanism goes further than that though. It also fully endorses the notion of the separation of Church and State, that religion should stay out of politics, and the state should never be conformed to the will of the Church.

The Holy Father has endorsed none of this. He has simply called Catholic Americans to lead the way in the revival of the greater worldwide Catholic Church. What is more interesting however, is that this message was specifically addressed to seminarians. These are not just any seminarians mind you, but the most traditional of them all. In effect the pope is telling Catholic Americans to stop pussy-footing around with all this liberal Modernist garbage and get back to Tradition! We know that's what works, so get to it already!

This is not Americanism by any stretch of the imagination.

Alan Aversa said...

And doesn't the U.S. Catholic church have the most traditional priests per capita?

Young Canadian RC Male said...

Sorry to say but I'm along similar lines at Pete Frey here, but even more cynical or worse. I feel that the Holy Father is misguided in his announcement. Save the traditional Catholic communities, the USA, I believe after seeing much here on The Catholic Knight and other blogs, that much of the USA is beyond repair thanks to modern heresy and "isms". Two now three generations have "drunk" the "Feel good Jesus" kool-aid of the misapplication of the "Spirit of Vatican II", and not enough young people are embracing Catholic traditionalism or efforts inspired by JPII and B16. Honestly boys and girls, I think that the great Chastizement is coming and Pope Benedict better be prepping his successor to run for the hills or be the dead pope in the 3rd Secret of Fatima. Maybe if the SSPX are canonized fully it will slow things down and give more "shelter" Trad Catholic communities, but I'm not hoping for much more in future, and that includes Canada. Pray to God that I am wrong.

Anonymous said...

thanks for that clarification, Sir Knight. As usual you manage to cut through the verbiage and get to the heart of the matter. However, as some of your posters have pointed out, the state of the US church is certainly not well primed for a "leadership" role, or to serve as any kind of example of catholic life to the rest of the world. It is still too imbued with modernism/liberalism/americanism to set a goal of reforming catholic life. Pete Frey

Ann said...

I can see what Pete means when I look at the following statistics:

"The number of clergy increased by 1,695 in Asia and by 765 in Africa. Growth in the Americas and Oceania was only in the double-digits, while priest numbers fell by 905 in Europe." http://lefleurdelystoo.blogspot.com.au/search?updated-max=2012-03-28T19:45:00-04:00&max-results=10&start=40&by-date=false

However, if the pope hopes that the Church in America will lead the way, then perhaps TCK's article, "A Prescription for Catholic Renewal in the US", should be brought to the bishops' attention and people ardently pray that they will understand and act. As the commenter Aquinas suggests, widespread devotion to the Sorrowful and Immaculate Heart of Mary is the sure road to victory.

Our Lady stood under the Cross, co-operating in our salvation and she continues interceding for us, but we have to respond and join our life (our prayers and works - our hearts) with hers and then what miracles we will see. Our Lord gave her to us as our mother when he gave her to John - consecration to her heart is our response ... and in the majority of cases, she and Our Lord are still waiting for us to embrace this special relationship willed by God.

My sons and I met your Archbishop Chaput during World Youth Day in Australia and were impressed by him. Cardinal Pell here in Australia along with Archbiship Hickey and Bishop Brennan (the latter two now retired) are doing/have done much to protect and grow the Church, and clean out / establish sound seminaries. Those still in the fight in our respective countries need all the help (especially prayer) and support that we can give them. We will be of much more help to our bishops and priests if we become devoted children of our Blessed Lady.

Antaine said...

If it works out then great. Good to hear for America. Perhaps you can send some over to Europe in the coming years when everyone here will be too busy spilling each others guts out for all manner of reasons.

Laura said...

Perhaps the Holy Father was also hinting that he hoped an American Cardinal would succeed him, when the time came? An orthodox Cardinal of course!

I too see hope and despair ... at the same time. However, it is always in Our Lord's hands - and our Church will never fail.

Thank you again Sir Knight for this interesting bit of news.

Tom S. said...

Perhaps my perspective is a bit warped by living and being Catholic in the "bible belt" but I have to disagree with those who are considering the church in the US a "write off" or something akin to that.

I have no doubt that most average catholics (at least those who attend mass regularly) are sincere and faithful and perfectly capable of leading the restoration. Even in my parish which is very "modern" the people are still faithful and dedicated to the church. The true limitation is the leadership and instruction the faithful receive. If they are led and taught well they will "step up". That leadership is coming but very slowly. And that is the way it MUST be. I believe it was archbishop Lefebvre who said the church mus return to tradition but by "baby steps". That's where we are now - baby steps. We are just taking them. It will not be long until we are " toddlers" and the walking well.

Anonymous said...

I am available for a Papal consultation when he wants
to actually listen to someone, rather than his clergy
and bishops, who have destroyed the Catholic Church
in America and the family, simultaneously.

Karl

Ann said...

Sir Knight, also Karl & Other US Readers,

You have some good bishops in the US. Why not focus on them? How about those faithful Catholics in each diocese or archdiocese, who are also skilled in leadership roles, organize a delegation to their bishop or archbishop and take along a petition that shows that faithful Catholics - the ones that financially support the arch/bishop and his works with money in the plate every Sunday - are demanding action to right the current unacceptable situation in the Church in THEIR diocese or archdiocese. Have an action plan set out - perhaps that which TCK has already set out or a modified version that the delegation and petitioners can all agree on.

If the bishops are going to make good decisions they need good advisors: you have to communicate with them. I had success here in Australia with one archbishop. He honestly did not know what was happening under his nose until I brought him the evidence and he reacted immediately and fixed the problem - and it was no small matter. I have not had the same success with another archbishop and bishop here. However, I have always approached these Australian ecclesiastics as a sole voice - I had no delegation or even a companion to support me. But if you go to your bishop or archbishop as a delegation with petitions you will surely have more hope of success.

If the church in the US is going to take on a leadership roll, it has to get its own house in order diocese by diocese and archdiocese by archdiocese and I doubt this will happen unless the laity start organizing and sorting things out with their prelates.

What do you think?

Siobhan said...

Sir Knight,

This could be the start of the fulfillment of Our Lady of America? Everyday we should say the prayer that Our Lady dictated to Sr. Mildred with a special emphasis on the fifth paragraph:

“Reign over us, then, O Virgin Immaculate, with your Son Jesus Christ. May His Divine Heart and your most chaste Heart be ever enthroned and glorified among us. Use us, your children of America, as your instruments in bringing peace among men and nations. Work your miracles of grace in us, so that we may be a glory to the Blessed Trinity, Who created, redeemed, and sanctifies us.”

Michael Voris has also recently stated that perhaps, in one of history’s great ironies, protestant America may be the scene of the showdown of the Catholic Church and the diabolical. If Obama is re-elected this may certainly come true. In addition, there are rumors of Cardinal Raymond Burke possibly following Benedict as Pope. That would certainly be prophetic and confirming.

The Catholic Knight said...

I think it's very important to remember that that Holy Father is calling upon THE CATHOLIC CHURCH in the United States, not the nation itself, and certainly not the government or any entity of it. Nor is the Holy Father calling upon the people of the United States either -- but only faithful Catholics from among them.

This is sobering. For the Holy Father's call offers no sign of hope for the United States as a political/social/economic entity, but rather the Catholic Church within. Keep that in mind.

Is this a fulfilment of Our Lady of America private revelation? I don't know. Unless I am mistaken, OLOA is a message to all Americans, not just Catholics within the Church. I have deliberately omitted any reference to OLOA or this reason. I don't know if Pope Benedict's call is connected to it or not.

Siobhan said...

Sir Knight,

I’m in agreement with you that the America we knew as the USA is probably done. But we have to trust that Providence, after the chastisement, will bring about a transformation and rebirth of some kind. In my opinion, and as I have stated before, I believe we will become a Commonwealth of Nation-States within a Kingdom. In the meantime though, there are hopeful signs of renewal, especially among many young Catholics and the young and vibrant priests and religious coming of age. Yes, unfortunately, many young people have become polluted by the “culture” including my own nieces and nephews, but the coming hard times may be what will bring them to their knees. The truth is that the old American Catholic Church, the liberals and modernists, are dying out and are being replaced to their great anger and disappointment. Working for a Church on Long Island, I hear it all the time how the old guard is complaining that the new Priests coming up are “too conservative” and “want to do away with Vatican II.” All I can say is Alleluia! Thank you Lord! There is a growing hunger for TRUTH from a generation that knows they’ve been “robbed” not only of true Catholic Culture but Western Culture as well, and not the “marxist slop” they’ve been given. Pope Benedict must have received some insight regarding the Catholic Church in America otherwise why would he say anything. For the first time in a while, I’m actually optimistic about the near future. May the battle commence and may God’s Will be done!

PS – A couple of years ago, Raymond Burke gave approval to Our Lady of America. Step by step, we are getting there.

Seraph said...

If Pope Benedict is calling on the American Church to this mission, it must fall on the laity and some of the priests who are not Modernists. The American bishops are all Americanists. There is no way that any of the modern bishops in America are up to this task.

As E. Michael Jones told Michael Voris in an interview, All the bishops have fallen for the error of Americanism. Every single bishop is either an all out Modernist or a neocon. The Modernist liberals like Mahoney are disappearing, but the conservatives are all neocons. Archbishop Cahput in Philadelphia began there by praising John Courtney Murray, the grand heretic of Americanism and Religious Liberty.

Anonymous said...

I live in Gibraltar (Europe) and I can tell you that true authentic Catholicism is no longer the norm. You just have to look at all that is occurring re marriage, gay marriage etc It is so sad to see relativism as the new religion - I would call it Religion of Convenience!

But let us all who long to live out our faith for the love of God give of ourselves 100%. Let us bring back the fervour of past saints like Our Blessed Virgin Mary,St Teresa of Avila, St John of the Cross, St Louis de Monfort, St Therese of the Child Jesus. They gave the whole lives for God. They lived out their faith in total abandonment for the love of Him who gave us Jesus His Son to teach how we should live. So who can separate us from the love of God! Come on all you Christian Soldiers let us in one accord march for the Way, the Truth and the Life.

Anonymous said...

Seraph,

In light of yor observation, I genuinely wonder who has pulled the wool over Benedict XVI's eyes; he strikes me as a man not to be trifled with and an astute, wise leader; one doesn't survive WWII Germany without a keen eye for what is going on 'at ground level'. Or, perhaps, despite the gross defect that has poisoned vast swathes of the Church in North America, WesternEurope, the UK, Australia and New Zealand the Holy Father just might see something inate within the cohort he has singled out that has what it takes to do the job. If the complete Church hierarchy in the US is fallen to Americanism/modernism/neo conservatism, who do you suggest might be unsullied enough to answer the Pope’s call? Or is this merely another move by malevolent forces to plunge the Church ever more deeply into eclipse????? What say you, perhaps Sur Knight might addresss your take on the situation also.

Blessings,

Sarah,
Australia.

Paul said...

Seraph, what is your evidence that our bishops are neocons? As far as i can tell many of our bishops are naive when it comes to the welfare state -which leads to both economic and political slavery while also (effectively) mitigating against God's command that people work. But the essential tenent of neocon politics is NOT "compassionate conservatism" but constant revolution of one form or another. Presently, it is the wars of the middle-east. When Bush II took office it was the morphing of the republican party into a party of welfare which would subject even former conservatives (citizens as well as municipalities and states and politicians) to an all encompassing power of the federal government. Neocons, at heart, are social engineers through politics.
I cannot think of any bishops who are applauding or promoting the neocon orthodoxy of perpetual revolution -in any form; and most especially when it comes to contemporary Anglo-American imperial warfare.

Ann said...

I agree with Anonymous who said above: "Let us bring back the fervor of past saints ... Come on all you Christian Soldiers let us in one accord march for the Way, the Truth and the Life." Whenever the Church Militant has veered off track in centuries past, a small minority responded and their holiness moved mountains.

We have all noted that something needs to be done and we Catholic people can't go on waiting for someone else to do it. As Seraph has noted: "If Pope Benedict is calling on the American Church to this mission, it must fall on the laity and some of the priests who are not Modernists."

I agree with Paul that many bishops are simply naive. Therefore they can be enlightened. Laity striving to fully live their Catholic Faith - strengthened by their priests through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and reception of the Sacraments - are capable of bringing their bishops up to scratch in the performance of their duties.

A delegation in each (arch)diocese approaching its prelate with the necessary information and support (evidence, petitions etc) as I mentioned previously, could enlighten naive bishops and show worldly bishops that it is in their interest to do the right thing. After all, their collection plates and donations are at risk.

Sarah wonders what gives Pope Benedict XVI confidence in a leadership role by the US Church. One reason might be because US Bishops perceived as "on track" are quoted at length in our good Catholic magazines here in Australia (e.g. Fidelity and AD2000). If Australian Catholics look to some American prelates as Catholic fellows worthy of trust, then I assume it likely that Catholics in other countries do likewise.

Being the world's superpower has put the spotlight on the US, influencing other nations for good or ill.

Anonymous said...

NOwhere does he say "The Pope wishes me to relay...", "His Holiness wishes that I convey the following...:. He only gives his OWN "vision". One obviously NOT by way of the Holy Ghost.

Anonymous said...

"As far as i can tell many of our bishops are naive when it comes to the welfare state -which leads to both economic and political slavery while also (effectively) mitigating against God's command that people work...."

Whether the U.S. Bishops are all Americanist in tendency I do not know, but I suspect many are. I base this on data - I have corresponded at length over the years with a fair number of very "orthodox" Catholics in America, and have found all, without exception, to be heavily Americanist.

Mr Knight is the only American Catholic blogger I have ever come across who does not worship at the altar of Americanism, for he is far too deep and intellectually honest of a thinker, far too humble and caring a man, and far too loyal to the demands of the Magisterium to not see the intellectual dishonesty in it.

I do know that "God's command that people work" is rather useless in that it is impossible to put into practice in a crippled economy where demand for jobs of all levels far exceeds supply. If I mention that fact to my American Catholic acquaintances (all employed or comfortably retired, and quite impressed with their own achievements although they will project an air of false humility always), even backing it up with both hard and anecdotal data, they call me a "socialist" or a "Marxist" and then proceed to tell me how everything is the fault of the poor who are just so lazy and entitled as they look for "handouts."

Apologies for the sarcasm - I am ordinarily not a sarcastic person, but I am just very angry as I watch those suffering in the present American economy and I cannot hold back either my anger-- or my tears--at the "devout Catholics" who are indifferent to it, and in fact blame the victims for their own misfortune.

I believe a chastisement is at hand, but it is about much, much more than abortion and the sins of the so-called "secular world."

Luciana

Anonymous said...

Luciana,

AMEN SISTER!!!!!!!! AMEN!!!!!!!!! Look at the lot of persons with a disability; Neocons et al do not give a flying Scotsman about this number!!! Similarly, the unemployment rate within the US (official and real; two very different figures, remember) is NOT the fault of the poor, but the fault of the greedy plutocrats and oligarchs who sit in self-satisfaction without remembering

Matt 25: 34-40
Acts 2: 42-42-47
James 5: 1-6 and chess 2-4 inclusively (I don't care how sick and tired the US readership becomes of me reminding them of these verses)
And Matt 23: 23.

I personally thank God for the system we have in Australia; we're not perfect, not by a long shot, but I believe we have the balance that the US should look to and emulate.

Blessings,

Sarah,
Australia.

Anonymous said...

My dear friend Sarah,

People with disabilities are one of the most vulnerable groups for these smug Americanist Catholics. They will rail on and on against abortion and euthanasia (to which you and I are both adamantly opposed) but once a person is born, if they have a disability or later become disabled, these "faith defenders of the culture of life" will sweep that person under the rug or throw them away like yesterday's newspaper. They will protest at abortion clinics but are the last people who would ever visit someone in a nursing home on a regular basis (other than their own mother or father), nor would they open a 3-bedroom homes in a pretty, middle-class neighborhood with 2 empty bedrooms to an acquaintance teetering on the edge of homelessness and despair. They might "pray for you" or hand you the phone number of a social services agency, where a paid social worker will find you sheltered housing in a very, very bad neighborhood. These people have no sense of community beyond the community of marriage and immediate family. They don't need real friends because they get all their emotional and spiritual needs from their spouse. Other people's sufferings/hardships/problems are not "their problem." But oh - they will "pray for them" of course. And they know the Catholic Faith inside out and actually believe that they are staunch defenders of it--despite the fact that while fully embracings its teachings about marriage and sexuality they ignore its social teachings or "twist" them into meaning something they do not mean (in effect, twist them to support the self-centered are pride-filled lifestyle they embrace). The higher the IQ the easier it is to twist (one of the Americanists I know is.

Everything I write above is based on first-hand experience of things I have either witnessed or gone through myself Unless these people repent I believe they will have much wrath to face on the day of judgment.

I cut and pasted this comment the other day from a column by Ross Douthat - it is right on point (no I did not write the comment, but I could have):

"Re your very interesting interview with Bill Moyers, I would recommend to you the portions of John Paul II's annus centesimus concerning the state's obligation to provide social justice by guaranteeing unemployment insurance, fair wages, and effective labor unions in order to secure the basic dignity of humankind. Laissez faire capitalism, which you support, led to the brutal conditions which were the subject of the encyclical."

We have spoken about these matters before, but they bears repeating. I have been ill in recent weeks but miss you and Anne. You remain in my heart and prayers, dear friend.

Luciana

Anonymous said...

Luciana,

i had typed a lengthy comment in response but blogger ate it with the incorrect pressing of a single flamin' key!!

Those who see themselves as the champions of orthodox Catholicism ought to read the Bible a little more frequently!! Who did christ condemn in the closing phrases of Matt 25: 34-40???? i suspect there will be many who cry 'Lord Lord' upon that day to whom He will look upon sadly and utter with the full weight of His justice - 'I know you not'!!

who did the Bridegroom call to feast with Him?? the well-to-do? His family and friends?? at first, yes, but who came? For whom did he send?? the blind, the lame, the broken, the mamed!! These he received, clothing them in marriage robes, bringing them unto Himself!!

James james james, people!! You may say 'I believe'...well what do you know?? Even the devils in hell believe, and shudder!! Faith without works is dead!! and remember the works of which james is speaking - attending to the poor, the outcast, the needy, the impoverished, the suffering!!

ANY CATHOLIC CHRISTIAN WHO CALLS HIMSELF ORTHODOX AND DOES NOT DO FOR THE LEAST OF THESE IS NO CHRISTIAN AT ALL!! This is not marxism, it is not socialism, IT IS BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY!!

Remember Matt 23: 23; all the EF masses, beautiful Architecture, correct teaching and mantilla-wearing is for NAUGHT if the 'widow and orphan' are left wanting, if the lonely are left suffering!!

I have commented extensively here before and on several other orthodox Catholic blogs with my model of rebuilding and practical application of gospel truths...bet the self-satisfied set just brush it aside as so much unchecked liberation theology - which it is NOT!!

though the family is the domestic Church, the Church is a body of believers called to look after one another!! Parish, folks, Parish!! YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS MATTER!! and if your IQ or political affiliation causes you to see red at what I am writing, SHAME ON YOU!!

DO YOU KNOW WHO IS LAODICEA??? this present Church!! YES, even the so called 'orthodox' Catholics!!

YOU NEED TO DO BOTH OR YOUR FAITH IS IN VAIN!!

I will keep speaking and doing to the best of my ability until my last breath upon this earth!! I will keep holding it all up to the scrutany of Holy Scripture, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Magisterium!!

CCC*2424 and surrounds, Laborem Exercens (sp) etc; read them!! Read the surrounding paragraphs to CCC#2424 and WAKE THE HECK UP!!

God help His church,

Luciana, drop me a line sister to my email with your PH. No; wanna give you a call.

blessings,

Sarah.

Anonymous said...

Sarah,

Just sign my own name right below yours beneath every word you have written above, for we are, as usual, of a single mind on all these issues.

Email sent to you.

Luciana

Anonymous said...

Luciana,

You made a very salient point several comments above concerning shareholder greed. I firmly believe that it behooves every shareholder, be they great or small, to exercise the attendant responsibilities that accompany these priviledges!! The shareholder contains within his grasp more power than he thinks; In keeping with CATHOLIC SOCIAL TEACHING that does not change whether one is liberal, conservative, trad or rad-trad, it is up to the shareholder to examine corporate goings on in the light of Holy Mother Church and exercise voting rights accordingly. is the board ethical? is it moral? is it greedy? Does it put profit above the reason for the company's existance?????? Remember, companies and corporations are primarily supposed to produce goods and services, not act as bankers!! The idea of shareholding is to allow capital to be made available for R&D, better running of the company, not fatter profit margins at the expense of workers, God's creation or the customers/public!! if one owns small holdings, act as a block with other smallholder voters!!

Hold EVERYTHING up to the scriptures, Catechism and Encyclicals I have gone on about again and again and again!! THIS IS NOT SOCIALISM - IT IS THE MODEL OF BIBLICAL ECCONOMY NOT THE PERNITIOUS CANCER THAT MASQUERADES AS FREEMARKET CAPITALISM (an ulcerating sore if you ask me; capitalism and genuine free enterprise are two different things entirely!!)

People should take notice of an Australian by the name of Stephen Mayne (formerly of 'Crikey dot com fame) who now runs the 'Mayne Report'
www.maynereport.com and balance this out with Catholic ecconomics as spelled out in the CCC, encyclicals such as Laborem Exercens and Holy Scripture. THE CHURCH IS NOT QUIET ON ECCONOMICS AND INDUSTRY – IT IS VERY VERY VOCAL – AS VOCAL AS IT IS ON MATTERS OF SEXUALITY ETC, BUT THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO STYLE THEMSELVES AS ORTHODOX (WITH THE EXCEPTION OF tck) CHOOSE NOT TO LISTEN AT THEIR PERIL!!! (I've given you smug Americanist self-styled 'orthodox' types all the reference points you need in previous comments so will not repeat myself again here).

Additionally, for those still wedded to the lie that distributism is socialism lite, read
http://www.jesusradicals.com/on-distributism-part-1-distributism-made-ridiculously-simple/
which dispells this little piece of misinformation perfectly.

Oh come chastizement and sweep the muck from the floor of the house, blow through like a rushing whirlwind to carry away the filth of greed, selfishness and self- satisfied smugness that pays no heed to the brother and sister fallen in the wayside!! You can bet your bottom dollar that god is hopping mad, and you can bet that self same dollar that the Holy Pope and GCM will be hopping mad also!!

Corporal works of mercy and true caritas are compulsory, not optional extras!!

blessings,

Sarah,
Australia.

Anonymous said...

There is such a thing as "constructive criticism", and then there is "ranting" which is destructive and lacks charity.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous,

Let me guess - those with whom you disagree are the "ranters" whilst those who share your political views are the "constructive criticizers"?

Let me venture more guesses - you are an American Catholic with a decently-paying (if not lucrative) and secure job, you follow the "Austrian School" of economics, and you believe anyone who supports the idea of any sort of national health plan for the United States of America is part of some Communist Front operation?

Perhaps you are also one of those commenters who pops up here from time to time telling Mr Knight he is un-patriotic because he doesn't fall in line with the Republican Party as frequently as you think he should.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous,

Your post suggest the influence of popular psychology more than that of Catholic tradition, which in its diversity makes room for a variety of forms of expressing charism.

Not all the Saints were as placid as the Little Flower. A book I can recommend highly is "St Vincent Ferrer: Angel of the Apocalypse." This particular Saint was a real "ranter."

Anonymous said...

Just saying it as it is, fed up to the back teeth with the rot, 'tsall. If a few 'money-changers' tables' are overturned in the process, so be it.

Blessings,

Sarah,
Australia.

Anonymous said...

UK Catholic says –
Guys - The Catholic faith in Europe is alive and kicking. Please don’t say the faith is dead in any region of the world. The faith cannot die - that is impossible. Christ is risen - the faith is Christ living among and in us – we are temples of His Spirit, part of His most Holy body – the body of Christ can never die – the faith cannot die. It lives here in Europe and it lives in the USA.
As to the American Catholic Church leading a worldwide Catholic revival. .....The pope has chosen a great task for a part of the Catholic Church that feels its unworthiness. Your comments above attest to that .You sound depressed and doubtful.So if by your own admission we accept that the American Catholic Church is unworthy of the pope’s task then consider the following....
Which disciple did Christ choose for his first pope?.The unworthy, cowardly, hot tempered, rash, inspirational, charismatic , walk on water... Saint Peter! Jesus took this unworthy man and used him to be the rock upon which He built His church. So the pope is following the greatest of teachers - Our Lord Jesus Christ. He has selected a pretty “dodgy” part of the church and asked great things of it. He has looked at the global Catholic Church and found his” Peter” in the USA. He has not asked the Nigerian Catholics who are a young vigorous church in love with Christ - he has asked you – the American Catholic Church. You are divided, you are cranky (oh yes you are!!!!), you are argumentative, you are rash, you want to walk on water but you can’t get up from the poolside of your modern Betseda, you are soooooo “Peter”....... you are the ideal Church to lead a bunch of sinners... (i.e. all of us) to the Promised Land. So get up and go for it ....pray.....don’t ignore Our Lady. Pray to her the mother of the church and she will lead you.......you are unworthy of this task but your public admission of this on this blog is just the same as Peters tears after he realised he had denied Christ. The first pope denied Christ .Don’t forget that when you feel unworthy of this task..... St Peter will help you.

Anonymous said...

UK Catholic,

Inspirational, wise, insightful and brilliant!!

Your words apply equally to us here in Aus and New Zealand...

thank you.

Blessings,

Sarah,
Australia.

Anonymous said...

UK Catholic says:
The writer Marianne Williamson was quoted by Nelson Mandella in his Inaugural speech 1994 South Africa when he was calling on his countrymen to be brave and resurrect themselves after the divisions of aparthied.
“Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It's not just in some of us; it's in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others”
He could have been talking to the American Catholic Church - let your light shine - forget about trad vs modernist etc ....be brothers and sisters in Christ ...........

I have a feeling the popes task may be about rediscovering the power of prayer.As one of the above commetators mentioned. We all need to improve our prayer life. Then comes re-evangilising our own communities and families - a faith not shared goes cold.As Sarah says - evangilisation can be most easily done through deeds of charity for the common good - "see how those Christians love one another"........we dont have to be pushing religion .....we need to be doing it......Lead on America!!! :-)

Anonymous said...

UK Catholic...many inspiring sentiments here, and the quote in itself is inspirational ("disguised as an Angel of Light" comes to mind), but please please please perform some research on who Marianne Williamson is and the false religion she is pushing. "The Course in Miracles" is as Luciferian as anything in existence. I say this not to disrespect you but rather to warn you so you don't get sucked into these teachings.

You might as well be quoting something from Alesiter Crowley or the Thule Society. There is a good article on the internet (don't have the lin) written by Fr Benedict Groeschel (not a fan of his by the way, but this article is excellent) talking about the woman who "channeled" the "Course In Miracles" that will give you immediate insights into this issue.

Anonymous said...

UK Catholic says :

Dont worry I dont read Marianne's work . I just came across her quoted in Nelson Mandellas inaugural speech -The spirit will "blow where it will" and speak through whom it will.If its good enough for Nelson Mandella .... Im glad you find some inspiration in these few words......Good luck American Catholics........

Paul said...

Luciana,
My difficulty with compassionate conservatism (as it was called by the Bush regime) is not that the poor and disabled receive assistance from the state. I see i did not make that clear. My problem was Bush proposing it as an expansion of an already de-facto totalitarian state where at least one party previously (republican) tried to stay the effects of popular dependence on government. Bush then went on to expand wars throughout the world thereby proving he believed the state should control all aspects of life, including those formerly taken care of by charity and religious organizations.
Prior to the French Revolution, religious orders and parishes did the lion's share of charity work and, thereby, the Church had a large say in how the culture was formed. When the revolutionaries took over, they also took over the charity work through increased taxation. The influence of the Church was terribly diminished. I simply want to see this 225 year trend reversed.
If the state gives too many people assistance, sloth can begin to take hold threatening the souls of those who become slothful. If parishes were able to give this assistance because parishoners could tithe more money because they were not taxed too much, the parish would be caring for people on a small enough level (subsidiarity) that they would see who really needs help and who doesn't. The state is blind to this distinction and many politicians like it that way because it gives them a voter base who receives free assistance even for those who may not need it. It also diminishes the Church's influence on culture and many politicians are happy with that effect also.
But as for my neighbor who has permanent brain trauma from an accident (my next door neighbor) i let him share my garbage service, bring him food (and beer sometimes) and help him however i can. I just wish my very poor parish could also help him instead of the state!

Anonymous said...

Paul,

You mentioned that you would simply like to see the past 225 years or so of state take-over reversed; it goes back further still in Protestant nations from the UK to Germany to Scandinavia where the Protestant revolution of the reformation gained the 'victory' thus disolving a millenium of organic, Church-based assistance via parish, monastery and religious society. the plight of the poor post reformation was far worse than that of the poor prior to it. (from a graduate student of history from Germany who is also a committed Catholic Christian and someone I count as friend).

State involvement in the plight of the poor dates back to around 1609 with the introduction of 'Poor laws' in the UK; Germany adopted similar laws soon after. State increases in the area of charitable works coincided with either a lack of satisfactory Church work (i.e. protestant nations) and more recently (latter half of the 20th century) a withering of active religous orders formerlly concerned with these matters - an interplay between the diminishment of one and growth of the other. As it stands, active orders that are also orthodox are now all but extinct, with active orders overall in tatters. You would need to rebuild the whole framework more or less, and remember that even the St. Vincent de Paul society in many nations receives govt. funding, as do Catholic schools and even Catholic hospitals. In Australia, for instance, it is understood that the govt. has a role to ensure the public good, health, safety and to ward off poverty.

I think Australia has the balance between the US system and Scandinavian system – US readers could learn from Australia. We need a 'revolutionary' spin of the wheel to realign things back to 'the Church' who at present does not have the foot-soldiers to do the work anyway because it has retreated as the state has advanced in these areas (and there is virtually nothing left of the active orders; perhaps contemplative orders could become active and fill the gap).

blessings,

Sarah,
Australia.

Paul said...

Very interesting history Sarah -and of course there was even terrible poverty before the English Revolution. We can only hope and pray that state influence, which never seems to act through charity, diminishes while the Catholic parishes and religious grow strong again and new ones spring up. Maybe parishes are the key since we are moving into a period where the laity have a role they never had so consciously until after Vatican II is properly understood. The Church is definitely still getting its bearings after these revolutions and the misinterpretations of VaticanII